John Elder 1813–1879 – Australian Royalty: Genealogy of the colony of New South Wales

John Elder, 1813–1879 (aged 65 years)

Name

John Elder

Name: John /Elder/
Given names: John
Surname: Elder

Gender Male


Birth	July 25, 1813 41 22 Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Source: New South Wales. Department of Justice and Attorney General. NSW Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages. [data-base on-line]. Sydney: the Registry. Text: V18133165 1A/1813 ELDER JOHN JAMES MARY Source: Ancestry.com. New South Wales, Australia, St. John's Parramatta, Baptisms, 1790-1916 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. Citation details: Vol 01, Baptisms, 1790-1825; Marriages, 1789-1823; Burials, 1790-1825 Text: John son of James Elder and Mary his wife was born 25 Jul 1813 and christened 21 Nov 1813
Census	November 1828 (aged 15 years) New South Wales, Australia Source: Ancestry.com. 1828 New South Wales, Australia Census (TNA Copy) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. Text: Elder, James, came free, age 50, R. Admiral 1800 Protestant Elder, Mary 34, came free, Barwell 1798, Protestant Elder, Edmund 21 born in the colony lodger at John Jones, Elizth Street Elder, James, baker at Parramatta 1500 acres, 150 cleared 4 horses, 30 horned cattle Elder, John 15 born in the colony, Protestant, assistant to John Biles, 61 Geo. Str Sydney Elder, Robert 14 born in the colony, clerk to Mr. Saml. Lyons Geo. Street Elder, Thomas 11 born in the colony Elder, Jane 9 born in the colony Elder, Ann 7 born in the colony Elder, Willa. W. 5 born in the colony Elder, Eliza 3 born in the colony Elder, Mary Jr. 17 born in the colony
Religious marriage	Mary Anne Dede — View this family November 4, 1845 (aged 32 years) Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Source: Ancestry.com. New South Wales, Australia, St. John's Parramatta, Marriages, 1790-1966 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. Citation details: Vol 04, 1839-1856 (No 1-345) Text: John Elder of the parish of St Peters Richmond a bachelor and Mary Anne Dede of this parish a spinster were married in this church by licence this 4th day of Nov 1845 John and Mary Anne both signed the register in the presence of H.H. Bobart and Emma Dede, both of Parramatta
Death	1879 (aged 65 years) Sydney City, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Source: New South Wales. Department of Justice and Attorney General. NSW Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages. [data-base on-line]. Sydney: the Registry. Text: 129/1879 ELDER JOHN JAMES MARY SYDNEY

Date differences

Family with parents
father	Links Birth: 1772 — Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom Immigration: November 1800 — Sydney Cove, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Religious marriage: July 19, 1808 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Petition to Governor: May 12, 1810 — Baulkham Hills, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Property: 1823 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Death: March 12, 1836 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Burial: March 15, 1836 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Mary Smith Edmund Elder Mary Elder James Elder John Elder Robert Elder Thomas Elder Jane Elder Ann Elder Wilhelmina Wemyss Elder Eliza Dunlop Elder Frances Elder James Elder 1772–1836 Birth: 1772 — Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom Death: March 12, 1836 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
mother	Links Birth: December 31, 1790 29 22 — Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom Immigration: May 18, 1798 — Sydney Cove, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Religious marriage: July 19, 1808 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 Death: September 8, 1861 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales Burial: September 8, 1861 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse James Elder Edmund Elder Mary Elder James Elder John Elder Robert Elder Thomas Elder Jane Elder Ann Elder Wilhelmina Wemyss Elder Eliza Dunlop Elder Frances Elder Mary Smith 1790–1861 Birth: December 31, 1790 29 22 — Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom Death: September 8, 1861 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales
Religious marriage	Religious marriage — July 19, 1808 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
18 months elder brother	Links Birth: 1809 37 18 Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Death: Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Edmund Elder 1809– Birth: 1809 37 18 Death:
15 months elder sister	Links Birth: March 15, 1810 38 19 — New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Death: September 5, 1841 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Burial: September 8, 1841 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Mary Elder 1810–1841 Birth: March 15, 1810 38 19 — New South Wales, Australia Death: September 5, 1841 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
23 months elder brother	Links Birth: January 25, 1812 40 21 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Death: August 11, 1850 — Sydney City, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Burial: August 13, 1850 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships James Elder 1812–1850 Birth: January 25, 1812 40 21 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: August 11, 1850 — Sydney City, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
18 months himself	Links Birth: July 25, 1813 41 22 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Religious marriage: November 4, 1845 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1879 — Sydney City, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Mary Anne Dede Herbert John Elder Mary Elder Henry James Stephen Elder Francis Rowling Elder Amy Elizabeth Elder Alice Marion Elder John Elder 1813–1879 Birth: July 25, 1813 41 22 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1879 — Sydney City, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
3 years younger brother	Links Birth: July 25, 1816 44 25 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Death: July 30, 1836 Burial: Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Robert Elder 1816–1836 Birth: July 25, 1816 44 25 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: July 30, 1836
10 months younger brother	Links Birth: May 30, 1817 45 26 — New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Death: 1884 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Thomas Elder 1817–1884 Birth: May 30, 1817 45 26 — New South Wales, Australia Death: 1884
2 years younger sister	Links Birth: August 30, 1819 47 28 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Death: 1885 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Jane Elder 1819–1885 Birth: August 30, 1819 47 28 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1885 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
22 months younger sister	Links Birth: June 27, 1821 49 30 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Religious marriage: March 25, 1845 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1902 — Orange, Central Tablelands, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse John Tom Ann Elder 1821–1902 Birth: June 27, 1821 49 30 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1902 — Orange, Central Tablelands, New South Wales, Australia
3 years younger sister	Links Birth: 1823 51 32 Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Religious marriage: June 17, 1851 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1895 — Parkes, Central Tablelands, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Thomas Tom Wilhelmina Wemyss Elder 1823–1895 Birth: 1823 51 32 Death: 1895 — Parkes, Central Tablelands, New South Wales, Australia
3 years younger sister	Links Birth: January 25, 1826 54 35 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Death: June 28, 1875 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Burial: June 30, 1875 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Eliza Dunlop Elder 1826–1875 Birth: January 25, 1826 54 35 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: June 28, 1875 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
3 years younger sister	Links Birth: February 11, 1829 57 38 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Religious marriage: June 29, 1848 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: November 9, 1913 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Burial: Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Edward Liscombe Rowling Edward Elder Rowling Albert Smith Rowling Fanny Australia Rowling John Edward Oliver Rowling Francis Liscombe Rowling Leslie Clement Rowling Alice Eveline Rowling Jesse Lilian Rowling Mary Elizabeth Rowling Annie Louisa Rowling Edward Charles Frederick Rowling Walter Elder Rowling Frances Elder 1829–1913 Birth: February 11, 1829 57 38 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: November 9, 1913 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Family with Mary Anne Dede
himself	Links Birth: July 25, 1813 41 22 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Census: November 1828 — New South Wales, Australia Religious marriage: November 4, 1845 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1879 — Sydney City, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Mary Anne Dede Herbert John Elder Mary Elder Henry James Stephen Elder Francis Rowling Elder Amy Elizabeth Elder Alice Marion Elder John Elder 1813–1879 Birth: July 25, 1813 41 22 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1879 — Sydney City, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
wife	Links Birth: August 17, 1814 — Greater London, England, United Kingdom Immigration: January 1839 — Sydney Cove, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Religious marriage: November 4, 1845 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1903 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse John Elder Herbert John Elder Mary Elder Henry James Stephen Elder Francis Rowling Elder Amy Elizabeth Elder Alice Marion Elder Mary Anne Dede 1814–1903 Birth: August 17, 1814 — Greater London, England, United Kingdom Death: 1903 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Religious marriage	Religious marriage — November 4, 1845 — Parramatta, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
3 years son	Links Birth: July 21, 1848 34 33 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1932 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Burial: Wentworth Falls, Blue Mountains, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Herbert John Elder 1848–1932 Birth: July 21, 1848 34 33 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1932 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
2 years daughter	Links Birth: July 25, 1850 37 35 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1854 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Mary Elder 1850–1854 Birth: July 25, 1850 37 35 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1854 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia
2 years son	Links Birth: November 26, 1852 39 38 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: June 26, 1934 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Burial: Sutherland, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Henry James Stephen Elder 1852–1934 Birth: November 26, 1852 39 38 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: June 26, 1934 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
2 years son	Links Birth: January 14, 1855 41 40 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Marriage: 1881 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: December 9, 1931 — Lindfield, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Aphrasia Catharine King Francis Rowling Elder 1855–1931 Birth: January 14, 1855 41 40 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: December 9, 1931 — Lindfield, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
3 years daughter	Links Birth: 1857 43 42 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1948 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Amy Elizabeth Elder 1857–1948 Birth: 1857 43 42 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1948 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
3 years daughter	Links Birth: 1859 45 44 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1927 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Alice Marion Elder 1859–1927 Birth: 1859 45 44 — Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1927 — Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

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Birth	Source: New South Wales. Department of Justice and Attorney General. NSW Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages. [data-base on-line]. Sydney: the Registry. Text: V18133165 1A/1813 ELDER JOHN JAMES MARY Source: Ancestry.com. New South Wales, Australia, St. John's Parramatta, Baptisms, 1790-1916 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. Citation details: Vol 01, Baptisms, 1790-1825; Marriages, 1789-1823; Burials, 1790-1825 Text: John son of James Elder and Mary his wife was born 25 Jul 1813 and christened 21 Nov 1813
Census	Source: Ancestry.com. 1828 New South Wales, Australia Census (TNA Copy) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. Text: Elder, James, came free, age 50, R. Admiral 1800 Protestant Elder, Mary 34, came free, Barwell 1798, Protestant Elder, Edmund 21 born in the colony lodger at John Jones, Elizth Street Elder, James, baker at Parramatta 1500 acres, 150 cleared 4 horses, 30 horned cattle Elder, John 15 born in the colony, Protestant, assistant to John Biles, 61 Geo. Str Sydney Elder, Robert 14 born in the colony, clerk to Mr. Saml. Lyons Geo. Street Elder, Thomas 11 born in the colony Elder, Jane 9 born in the colony Elder, Ann 7 born in the colony Elder, Willa. W. 5 born in the colony Elder, Eliza 3 born in the colony Elder, Mary Jr. 17 born in the colony
Religious marriage	Source: Ancestry.com. New South Wales, Australia, St. John's Parramatta, Marriages, 1790-1966 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. Citation details: Vol 04, 1839-1856 (No 1-345) Text: John Elder of the parish of St Peters Richmond a bachelor and Mary Anne Dede of this parish a spinster were married in this church by licence this 4th day of Nov 1845 John and Mary Anne both signed the register in the presence of H.H. Bobart and Emma Dede, both of Parramatta
Death	Source: New South Wales. Department of Justice and Attorney General. NSW Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages. [data-base on-line]. Sydney: the Registry. Text: 129/1879 ELDER JOHN JAMES MARY SYDNEY

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December 17, 2021 – 00:26:54

Author of last change: australianroyalty

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Family with parents
father	James Elder 1772–1836
mother Parents John Smith Mary Harley	Mary Smith 1790–1861
elder brother	Edmund Elder 1809–
elder sister	Mary Elder 1810–1841
elder brother	James Elder 1812–1850
himself	John Elder 1813–1879
younger brother	Robert Elder 1816–1836
younger brother	Thomas Elder 1817–1884
younger sister	Jane Elder 1819–1885
younger sister Family John Tom	Ann Elder 1821–1902
younger sister Family Thomas Tom	Wilhelmina Wemyss Elder 1823–1895
younger sister	Eliza Dunlop Elder 1826–1875
younger sister Family Edward Liscombe Rowling Edward Elder Rowling Albert Smith Rowling Fanny Australia Rowling John Edward Oliver Rowling Francis Liscombe Rowling Leslie Clement Rowling Alice Eveline Rowling Jesse Lilian Rowling Mary Elizabeth Rowling Annie Louisa Rowling Edward Charles Frederick Rowling Walter Elder Rowling	Frances Elder 1829–1913

Family with Mary Anne Dede
himself	John Elder 1813–1879
wife	Mary Anne Dede 1814–1903
son	Herbert John Elder 1848–1932
daughter	Mary Elder 1850–1854
son	Henry James Stephen Elder 1852–1934
son Family Aphrasia Catharine King	Francis Rowling Elder 1855–1931
daughter	Amy Elizabeth Elder 1857–1948
daughter	Alice Marion Elder 1859–1927

Descendants

John Elder(1813–1879)
- Mary Anne Dede1845