Catherine Johnson, 17701838 (aged 67 years)

Name
Catherine /Johnson/
Given names
Catherine
Surname
Johnson
Name
Catherine /Moore/
Type of name
married name
Birth
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[see burial below]

Immigration
Text:

Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 87, Class and Piece Number HO11/1, Page Number 17 (10)

Text:

Old Bailey transcript 18 Apr 1787:
ANN SMITH and Catherine JOHNSON were indicted for stealing on the 3d of March last, fifteen yards of printed callico, value 3 l. the property of Thomas Ashby and Joseph Osborne, privily in their shop.
THOMAS ASHBY sworn.
I had a partner, the partnership was dissolved the 24th of March, his name was Joseph Osborne ; on Saturday the 3d of March I was robbed, I only speak to my property, I found the prisoner in custody.
Who was in the shop with them then? - There was all my people.
ANTHONY HARDING sworn.
I am shopman to Mess. Ashby and Osborne at Holborn-bridge, I remember seeing the two prisoners on the 3d of March, they came into the shop together, between ten and twelve; I think it was after eleven, they asked for some muslins and prints, neither could be agreed for, and they went out; they looked at both and at different prints; I suspected them, and sent Henry Die to fetch them back.
What excited your suspicion? - They tumbled the things over the counter more than generally is the case, and asked for a number of things from the poles, which induced me to turn round; they were brought back in five minutes; they had not dropped any thing by the way; we found the things when they got into the shop after they came back; when the goods were taken from them they were given to me; I did not see the goods taken from them; he gave the things to me to feel that they were quite warm, and they were quite warm; after the goods were taken the prisoner Johnson pressed me to let her go repeatedly, and said it was the first time she was guilty.
Did the other prisoner say nothing? - No, only begged for the other, not for herself; they bid for the goods as for the prisoner Smith, and she bid me twenty-shillings for the gown as they were going out.
Did you see them take any thing? - No, I did not; but turning short, the principal reason of my suspicion turned upon Catherine Johnson , she made a great sumbling under her petticoats; I saw that, but I did not see her secret any goods.
Prisoner's counsel. This is a capital offence, I believe you know? - Yes.
Was there any mark on the goods? - Yes; I did not see them searched.
HENRY DIE sworn.
I was out of the shop when the prisoners came in; I came in while they were in the shop; I was in doors about five minutes; then I was sent out; the prisoners went out first; Mr. Harding sent me out to bring the prisoners back; I suspected they would take something, and I looked strictly to them; I observed a bustle, but could not see them take any thing; I looked as strictly as I possibly could; I follow- them; when I stopped the prisoners, they were just above Ely-place, on the other side of the way, about two hundred yards from our house; I went up to the prisoner Johnson, and told her, I was persuaded she had something about her that was not her own property; she immediately told me if I supposed so, she would go back with me; she immediately turned back; I observed her to put her hand into her pocket hole as she went in at the shop door; I desired her to walk into the back shop; she went forward till she went into the middle shop where she had been looking at these goods; she immediately made a stop and said, look here, may be the goods are here; and she attempted to pull some of the goods off the counter, and drop this by them; I desired her to walk forward, and she dropped the goods from her lost side; I took them from the side of her left leg; I saw them drop, and took them from her quite warm; I saw them slip down from the side of her petticoat; they were standing under her petticoat when I took them up.
Do you swear you saw them drop from under her petticoat? - I saw them drop, and took them up immediately as she was endeavouring to get away from me.
Did you or not see them drop from her petticoat? - I saw them drop under her petticoat, and took them up immediately.
Did you see them drop from the lower edge of her petticoat or not? - I saw the end of them below the edge of her petticoat; I saw them drop; I observed they were warm.
Supposing they had not been warm, should you have been certain they had dropped from under her coats? - I took them standing up under her coats.
Whether were they in a package or loose? - They were loose.
Then how could they stand up against her legs? - They were just as they are now, not in a package.
Who else were in the shop besides you and Hardy? - There was another young man in the shop; he is not here.
Why not? - He did not see any thing of it.
That he ought to tell us.
Prisoner's counsel. This young woman was very willing to come back again? - Yes.
You observed a bustle at her petticoat? - Yes.
You could not see them drop through the petticoat? - No.
How came you not to go up to the woman at that time? - It is what we never do; I did not know but what they might have bought something; it did not strike me so go up to the woman.
(The things deposed to by Mr. Ashby.)
This mark has been put on this twelve months or more, it is my own hand writing, No. 2.
PRISONER JOHNSON'S DEFENCE.
When we came home the gentleman said, they might be his things, but he could not swear to them; and that gentleman that stands up now, said hanging was too good for us, and hang us he said he would, if he could; and he took out a pencil, and made a mark.
Prosecutor. I have no doubt in the world of the things.
The prisoner Johnson called two witnesses, who gave her a good character.
ANN SMITH, Catherine JOHNSON,
GUILTY.
Transported for seven years.
Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

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The ship Prince of Wales arrived in NSW 26 Jan 1788

Marriage
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Common law relationship

Census
Marriage
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Catherine and Tristram formed a relationship but were not married at law.
Catherine already had 3 or 4 children by various fathers (details not certain) before Tristram arrived in 1802. Possibly Elizabeth born 1788 or 1791, William born on Norfolk Island 1792, and maybe Abigail born also on Norfolk Island in 1793 or 1794, and Thomas Benjamin born to John Hughes in 1801 and christened in St Philips at the same time as Margaret Jane in 1804. No information has been located about this Catherine Johnson from her 1794 return from Norfolk Island until about 1800.
It is believed that another Catherine Johnson married Thomas Tyler in 1796 at Parramatta and that this was Catherine Johnson/Johnston from the ship 'Surprize' in 1794. There are lots of references to Catherine Johnson/Johnston from about 1800-1814 re land grants and leases in the Rocks and it is likely that most of these are pertaining to the Catherine noted here.
There is an 1807 notice in the Sydney Gazette that Thomas Tyler and Catherine Johnson/Johnston were leaving the Colony on the Commerce. But it is not certain if Catherine did leave with Thomas, nor which Catherine she was. If it was this Catherine Johnson, a convict from the First Fleet, then the reason she didn’t marry Tristram Moore may have been because she was already married (no divorce in NSW until about 1870).

Census
Citation details: 1806 muster
Text:

Catherine Johnson, Prince of Wales, free by servitude, lives with Tristram Moore, concubine, 2 male and 4 female natural children

Census
Citation details: Population Muster, 1814
Text:

Catherine Johnston per the ship Prince of Wales, 2 children off stores, lives with T. Moore

Property
, , New South Wales, Australia
between August 1806 and 1814 (aged 43 years)
Text:

In 1805, Catherine paid £120 to Charles Cross for his 100 acre Cattai farm. Although she subsequently transferred the farm to Tristram, it went up for sale in November 1809 as Catherine Johnson's farm and she was on the premises to deal with prospective buyers.
Her business interests extended to the Rocks, with 2 houses auctioned on her behalf in 1807. She acquired 2 more Rocks leases from Paterson in her own and an daughter's name.
In seeking their confirmation she claimed that by 'assiduous application to honest industry' she was supporting her 'large, weak and helpless family of five [sic - see below] children'. She was perhaps at this time running an inn. At last however, she settled down with Tristram at the in 1814.

Citation details: Memorials To The Governor, 1810-1826
Text:

16 Feb 1810
"...the humble petition of Catherine Johnston
Most respectfully sheweth
That Your Excellency's petitioner came to this colony in the first fleet and humbly presumes that during the aforesaid length of time her conduct has given no offence endeavouring by an assiduous application to honest industry to support a large, weak, and helpless family of six children.
That petitioners exemplary good conduct during the aforesaid length of time and in consideration of a large family His Honor Lieut. Governor Paterson was pleased to grant your petitioner and daughter a lease each of their respective houses and premises on the Rocks Sydney and most humbly prays your Excellency will be pleased to take the forgoing circumstances into your humane consideration so as to renew the aforesaid leases and petitioner as in duty bound will every pray.
Catherine Johnston."

Census
Citation details: 1822 muster
Text:

Johnson, Catherine, free by servitude, P. Wales, 7 years, wife of T. Moore, Windsor

Census
Citation details: 1825 muster (1823-1825)
Text:

Johnson, Catherine, free by servitude, Prince of Wales, 1788, 7 years, wife of Tristram Moore, Wilberforce

Census
Text:

Moore Tristram, 58, conditional pardon, Atlas 1802, life, Protestant, farmer at Wilberforce
Johnson, Catherine, 57, Price of Wales, 1788, 7 years, housekeeper to T. Moore, Wilberforce

Death
Burial
Citation details: Windsor and Richmond Gazette Sat 27 Feb 1904 p. 9
Text:

Catherine Moore,
Who departed this life May THE 18th, 1838,
Aged 67 years.
Also
Tristram Moore,
Who departed this life May THE 18th, 1839,
Aged 72 years.

Text:

Catharine Johnson Moore
BIRTH 20 Oct 1770
England
DEATH 18 May 1838 (aged 67)
Wilberforce, Hawkesbury City, New South Wales, Australia
BURIAL
Wilberforce Cemetery
Wilberforce, Hawkesbury City, New South Wales, Australia
PLOT Portion: Right Row:6 Plot:15
MEMORIAL ID 155623586

Family with John Hughes
husband
Birth:
Death:
herself
17701838
Birth: October 20, 1770England, United Kingdom
Death: May 18, 1838New South Wales, Australia
Marriage Marriageestimated 1800New South Wales, Australia
23 months
son
1801
Birth: November 19, 1801 31 New South Wales, Australia
Death:
Family with Tristram Moore
husband
17671839
Birth: about 1767Londonderry, Antrim, Ireland
Death: 1839Wilberforce, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia
herself
17701838
Birth: October 20, 1770England, United Kingdom
Death: May 18, 1838New South Wales, Australia
Marriage Marriageabout 1803New South Wales, Australia
20 months
daughter
18041880
Birth: August 21, 1804 37 33 Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Death: December 3, 1880
20 months
daughter
1806
Birth: April 17, 1806 39 35 New South Wales, Australia
Death:
3 years
son
18091809
Birth: January 6, 1809 42 38 New South Wales, Australia
Death: 1809Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Birth
Text:

[see burial below]

Immigration
Text:

Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 87, Class and Piece Number HO11/1, Page Number 17 (10)

Text:

Old Bailey transcript 18 Apr 1787:
ANN SMITH and Catherine JOHNSON were indicted for stealing on the 3d of March last, fifteen yards of printed callico, value 3 l. the property of Thomas Ashby and Joseph Osborne, privily in their shop.
THOMAS ASHBY sworn.
I had a partner, the partnership was dissolved the 24th of March, his name was Joseph Osborne ; on Saturday the 3d of March I was robbed, I only speak to my property, I found the prisoner in custody.
Who was in the shop with them then? - There was all my people.
ANTHONY HARDING sworn.
I am shopman to Mess. Ashby and Osborne at Holborn-bridge, I remember seeing the two prisoners on the 3d of March, they came into the shop together, between ten and twelve; I think it was after eleven, they asked for some muslins and prints, neither could be agreed for, and they went out; they looked at both and at different prints; I suspected them, and sent Henry Die to fetch them back.
What excited your suspicion? - They tumbled the things over the counter more than generally is the case, and asked for a number of things from the poles, which induced me to turn round; they were brought back in five minutes; they had not dropped any thing by the way; we found the things when they got into the shop after they came back; when the goods were taken from them they were given to me; I did not see the goods taken from them; he gave the things to me to feel that they were quite warm, and they were quite warm; after the goods were taken the prisoner Johnson pressed me to let her go repeatedly, and said it was the first time she was guilty.
Did the other prisoner say nothing? - No, only begged for the other, not for herself; they bid for the goods as for the prisoner Smith, and she bid me twenty-shillings for the gown as they were going out.
Did you see them take any thing? - No, I did not; but turning short, the principal reason of my suspicion turned upon Catherine Johnson , she made a great sumbling under her petticoats; I saw that, but I did not see her secret any goods.
Prisoner's counsel. This is a capital offence, I believe you know? - Yes.
Was there any mark on the goods? - Yes; I did not see them searched.
HENRY DIE sworn.
I was out of the shop when the prisoners came in; I came in while they were in the shop; I was in doors about five minutes; then I was sent out; the prisoners went out first; Mr. Harding sent me out to bring the prisoners back; I suspected they would take something, and I looked strictly to them; I observed a bustle, but could not see them take any thing; I looked as strictly as I possibly could; I follow- them; when I stopped the prisoners, they were just above Ely-place, on the other side of the way, about two hundred yards from our house; I went up to the prisoner Johnson, and told her, I was persuaded she had something about her that was not her own property; she immediately told me if I supposed so, she would go back with me; she immediately turned back; I observed her to put her hand into her pocket hole as she went in at the shop door; I desired her to walk into the back shop; she went forward till she went into the middle shop where she had been looking at these goods; she immediately made a stop and said, look here, may be the goods are here; and she attempted to pull some of the goods off the counter, and drop this by them; I desired her to walk forward, and she dropped the goods from her lost side; I took them from the side of her left leg; I saw them drop, and took them from her quite warm; I saw them slip down from the side of her petticoat; they were standing under her petticoat when I took them up.
Do you swear you saw them drop from under her petticoat? - I saw them drop, and took them up immediately as she was endeavouring to get away from me.
Did you or not see them drop from her petticoat? - I saw them drop under her petticoat, and took them up immediately.
Did you see them drop from the lower edge of her petticoat or not? - I saw the end of them below the edge of her petticoat; I saw them drop; I observed they were warm.
Supposing they had not been warm, should you have been certain they had dropped from under her coats? - I took them standing up under her coats.
Whether were they in a package or loose? - They were loose.
Then how could they stand up against her legs? - They were just as they are now, not in a package.
Who else were in the shop besides you and Hardy? - There was another young man in the shop; he is not here.
Why not? - He did not see any thing of it.
That he ought to tell us.
Prisoner's counsel. This young woman was very willing to come back again? - Yes.
You observed a bustle at her petticoat? - Yes.
You could not see them drop through the petticoat? - No.
How came you not to go up to the woman at that time? - It is what we never do; I did not know but what they might have bought something; it did not strike me so go up to the woman.
(The things deposed to by Mr. Ashby.)
This mark has been put on this twelve months or more, it is my own hand writing, No. 2.
PRISONER JOHNSON'S DEFENCE.
When we came home the gentleman said, they might be his things, but he could not swear to them; and that gentleman that stands up now, said hanging was too good for us, and hang us he said he would, if he could; and he took out a pencil, and made a mark.
Prosecutor. I have no doubt in the world of the things.
The prisoner Johnson called two witnesses, who gave her a good character.
ANN SMITH, Catherine JOHNSON,
GUILTY.
Transported for seven years.
Tried by the London Jury before Mr. RECORDER.

Text:

The ship Prince of Wales arrived in NSW 26 Jan 1788

Marriage
Text:

Common law relationship

Census
Citation details: p. 64
Text:

Catherine Johnson
John Hughes

Marriage
Text:

Catherine and Tristram formed a relationship but were not married at law.
Catherine already had 3 or 4 children by various fathers (details not certain) before Tristram arrived in 1802. Possibly Elizabeth born 1788 or 1791, William born on Norfolk Island 1792, and maybe Abigail born also on Norfolk Island in 1793 or 1794, and Thomas Benjamin born to John Hughes in 1801 and christened in St Philips at the same time as Margaret Jane in 1804. No information has been located about this Catherine Johnson from her 1794 return from Norfolk Island until about 1800.
It is believed that another Catherine Johnson married Thomas Tyler in 1796 at Parramatta and that this was Catherine Johnson/Johnston from the ship 'Surprize' in 1794. There are lots of references to Catherine Johnson/Johnston from about 1800-1814 re land grants and leases in the Rocks and it is likely that most of these are pertaining to the Catherine noted here.
There is an 1807 notice in the Sydney Gazette that Thomas Tyler and Catherine Johnson/Johnston were leaving the Colony on the Commerce. But it is not certain if Catherine did leave with Thomas, nor which Catherine she was. If it was this Catherine Johnson, a convict from the First Fleet, then the reason she didn’t marry Tristram Moore may have been because she was already married (no divorce in NSW until about 1870).

Census
Citation details: 1806 muster
Text:

Catherine Johnson, Prince of Wales, free by servitude, lives with Tristram Moore, concubine, 2 male and 4 female natural children

Census
Citation details: Population Muster, 1814
Text:

Catherine Johnston per the ship Prince of Wales, 2 children off stores, lives with T. Moore

Property
Text:

In 1805, Catherine paid £120 to Charles Cross for his 100 acre Cattai farm. Although she subsequently transferred the farm to Tristram, it went up for sale in November 1809 as Catherine Johnson's farm and she was on the premises to deal with prospective buyers.
Her business interests extended to the Rocks, with 2 houses auctioned on her behalf in 1807. She acquired 2 more Rocks leases from Paterson in her own and an daughter's name.
In seeking their confirmation she claimed that by 'assiduous application to honest industry' she was supporting her 'large, weak and helpless family of five [sic - see below] children'. She was perhaps at this time running an inn. At last however, she settled down with Tristram at the in 1814.

Citation details: Memorials To The Governor, 1810-1826
Text:

16 Feb 1810
"...the humble petition of Catherine Johnston
Most respectfully sheweth
That Your Excellency's petitioner came to this colony in the first fleet and humbly presumes that during the aforesaid length of time her conduct has given no offence endeavouring by an assiduous application to honest industry to support a large, weak, and helpless family of six children.
That petitioners exemplary good conduct during the aforesaid length of time and in consideration of a large family His Honor Lieut. Governor Paterson was pleased to grant your petitioner and daughter a lease each of their respective houses and premises on the Rocks Sydney and most humbly prays your Excellency will be pleased to take the forgoing circumstances into your humane consideration so as to renew the aforesaid leases and petitioner as in duty bound will every pray.
Catherine Johnston."

Census
Citation details: 1822 muster
Text:

Johnson, Catherine, free by servitude, P. Wales, 7 years, wife of T. Moore, Windsor

Census
Citation details: 1825 muster (1823-1825)
Text:

Johnson, Catherine, free by servitude, Prince of Wales, 1788, 7 years, wife of Tristram Moore, Wilberforce

Census
Text:

Moore Tristram, 58, conditional pardon, Atlas 1802, life, Protestant, farmer at Wilberforce
Johnson, Catherine, 57, Price of Wales, 1788, 7 years, housekeeper to T. Moore, Wilberforce

Burial
Citation details: Windsor and Richmond Gazette Sat 27 Feb 1904 p. 9
Text:

Catherine Moore,
Who departed this life May THE 18th, 1838,
Aged 67 years.
Also
Tristram Moore,
Who departed this life May THE 18th, 1839,
Aged 72 years.

Text:

Catharine Johnson Moore
BIRTH 20 Oct 1770
England
DEATH 18 May 1838 (aged 67)
Wilberforce, Hawkesbury City, New South Wales, Australia
BURIAL
Wilberforce Cemetery
Wilberforce, Hawkesbury City, New South Wales, Australia
PLOT Portion: Right Row:6 Plot:15
MEMORIAL ID 155623586

Note

Catherine already had 3 or 4 children by various fathers (details not certain) before Tristram arrived in 1802. Possibly Elizabeth born 1788 or 1791, William born on Norfolk Island 1792, and maybe Abigail born also on NI in 1793 or 1794, and Thomas Benjamin born to John Hughes in 1801 and christened in St Philips at the same time as Margaret Jane in 1804. We haven’t located any information about this CJ from her 1794 return from NI until about 1800.

A Catherine Johnson married Thomas Tyler in 1796 at Parramatta but it is believed this was Catherine Johnson/Johnston from the Surprize in 1794. There is no information about this Catherine. There are lots of references to Catherine Johnson/Johnston from about 1800-1814 re land grants and leases in the Rocks and then the , and we think most of these are re my CJ. And there is an 1807 notice in the Sydney Gazette that Thomas Tyler and Catherine Johnson/Johnston were leaving the Colony on the Commerce. But it is not certain if Catherine did leave with Thomas, nor which Catherine she was. IF it was CJ from the First Fleet then the reason she didn’t marry Tristram Moore may have been because she was already married (no divorce in NSW until about 1870).

The Hardy information is either old or picked up from somewhere else as this confusion of the 2 Catherine Johnson/Johnstons is in a few books.

Doug Bowd is also descended from the same CJ as I am and some of his earlier information is incorrect. I am in frequent email contact with his son Geoff who still has lots of his father’s research. Louise Wilson who has written a book about Robert Forrest and is now writing one about Paul Bushell also gave me recently some information about my CJ as her path crossed Paul Bushell’s between 1800-1810 and both families ended up in the .