John Primrose, 1794–1856 (aged 62 years)
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- John /Primrose/
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Relationship: Friend Text: William and John were tried as conspirators in the same offence at the Old Bailey. |
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Text: John was sentenced to death, commuted to life imprisonment for stealing household goods and transported to the colony aboard the ship 'Morley' in 1817.
Source: University of Sheffield. Humanities Research Institute. The Proceedings of the Old Bailey: London's Central Criminal Court, 1674 to 1913. [database on-line]. Sheffield: the Institute, 2003-2008
Text: Old Bailey transcript 29 May 1816: JOHN PRIMROSE and WILLIAM GOW were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of the Right Honourable William Hurry, Earl of Darlington, about nine o'clock in the night of the 17th of May , with intent to steal, and burglariously stealing therein, one table, value 5s. one waistcoat, value 4s. his property; pair of breeches, value 8s. the property of Samuel Mitchell ; and one pair of gaiters, value 3s. the property of Richard Whittington. JESSE WHITTINGTON . I live with Lord Darlington; he lives in King-street, St. James's-square. In the evening of the 17th of May last, I was in the stable at about eight o'clock, I was there before that time for two or three hours, I had been in the room over the stables at about eight o'clock in the evening; I locked the door; I remained in the neighbourhood of the stables for about half an hour. I put the key in my pocket. It was quite dark when I went away; I had not the stable door in my view all the time; I had not seen it between eight and half past eight; if any one had entered the stable door between eight and half past eight o'clock, I was not in such a situation as I must have seen them. I returned to the stables at about a quarter after nine o'clock; I saw a light in the room up over the stables; my father was with me. We found the door open. My father went in, and stood at the door; I heard my father call out Bob, two or three times; he meant the postillion; I heard an aNew South Waleser made in a strange voice. My father then came out, and locked the door; we have two keys to the stable door; I had one, and my father the other. My father told me to go for assistance; I went to the ale-house, and brought assistance; Mr. Wright and Mr. Mackenzie came with me. When I got back to the stable, my father told Wright to take care of the stable, and he would go for more persons; he did so. On his return, they opened the door, and went in; he went up stairs, Mr. Wright, Mr. Mackenzie, and my father went up. Two or three days afterwards, I found a crow and two skeleton-keys in the litter of the horses in one of the stals; we clean out the litter once a week; we put fresh straw over the old, and so go on for about a week. It was light when I locked the door. RICHARD WHITTINGTON . I am the father of the last witness; I am coachman to the Earl of Darlington. I remember the evening of the 17th of May, I was ordered to bring the carriage at a quarter after ten. My master's christian names are William Harry. I was in the stables on the afternoon of the 17th of May, and left them between seven and eight o'clock; I was not farther than the public-house from the stable all the evening; the public-house is about a hundred yards from the stable. I returned to the stable at about a quarter past nine; there was a light in the room over the stable then; the stable door was then shut, but unlocked; I went in under the ladder, and called out Bob, several times, and then I heard a strange voice; then I went outside, and locked the door, and put my shoulder against it, and sent my son to the ale-house for assistance. When they came, we went up stairs; Wright went first with a pitchfork, I followed next, and Mackenzie came next with a lanthorn; we found the two prisoners in the hay-loft, at the top of the ladder, with a bundle tied up behind them. Wright and Mackinzie seized them first, and I said is there any more of you; they said no. I said, I won't believe you; then I looked all round, and there was no more. After we got them down stairs, we took them to the watchhouse, and had them searched; we lodged the bundle in the watchhouse also. I know the handkerchief in which the bundle was tied up; it belonged to a brother of mine; a tablecloth was in the bundle, that was his Lordship's; also a pair of breeches, they belonged to Samuel Mitchell , he is a postillion; also a stable livery waistcoat, the property of his Lordship; and a pair of gaiters, which were my own property. This stable adjoins Lord Darlington's house; it is all in one building. Cross-examined by MR. REYNOLDS. Lord Darlington's servants sleeps there; there is a strong party wall between the stable and the dwelling-house, and a person can go from the stable to the dwelling-house by a passage underneath, a covered passage. SAMUEL ROPER . I live with Mr. Palmer, 199, Oxford-street, he is a coach-harness plater. I remember the evening of the 17th of May; I was sent by my master to Lord Darlington's stables, to take two territs; it was about nine o'clock when I got there, it was pitch dark; not knowing the stable, I hallooed out at the end of the mews, and was aNew South Walesered by a woman; I asked which was Lord Darlington's stables, and she told me they were the last on the left hand. In consequence of her information, I found out the stable; I tried the stable door to go up stairs, and found it fastened; I stopped there about four or five minutes; at last I could not make any one hear, and I hallooed out very loud boy, and a postillion aNew South Walesered me from the window, and I perceived by the light of a lamp opposite, that he was in his shirt sleeves, and he said, he was getting into bed, and could not come down, but told me where the coachman was. He sent me to the coachman at the public-house; instead of going to the Golden Lion, I went to the Red Lion, and left the territs there for the coachman. Cross-examined by MR. ADOLPHUS. It was quite pitch dark. I never returned to the stable after having gone to the public-house; all was quiet when I was at the stable; it had gone nine I rather think when I got there; it was four or five minutes after, and I returned straight home from the public-house, it was not a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes after nine. Who had been at the stable between seven and eight o'clock, I don't know. All I know is that the door was locked at the time I was there; there was no lock outside; I know that, because I felt; I could not see. I felt the door, and felt a little staple, and put my finger through it, and shook the door, and found it was locked inside. The postillion was on the inside of the room. Examined by the COURT. I found this staple by feeling; for I could not see. I left the two territs for the coachman at the public house; there was two coachmen, only I took the territs to the wrong public-house. ROBERT BOWMAN. I remember the afternoon of the 17th of May; I was at the stables that afternoon, from five until eight o'clock; I was with Jesse Whittington there; I had been occasionally up stairs in the course of that afternoon; I am the postillion, called Bob. I left the stable at eight o'clock; I stood thereabouts for half an hour afterwards; I mean I was in sight of the stable door, when I say thereabouts. If any one had entered the stable door while I was there, I must have seen them; it was quite dark when we went away; it was only half past eight; it was light enough to see a person's face eight or nine yards off. COURT. Would you not have known Jesse Whittington 's face at ten yards distance - A. Yes. I did not return any more to the stable that night, until after the prisoners were taken. I was in the stable the next morning, and found six skeleton keys, on the cupboard up stairs, I gave them to the coachman; I found a tin phosphorous box, another day, on Tuesday I found it, containing matches and a bottle; I found that also in the horse litter, and took it to the coachman. Cross-examined by MR. REYNOLDS. I was not examined before the magistrate. Examined by the COURT. My Lord has two postillions; there was another postillion at the stable that night besides me; I did not leave him in the stable when I went away. Samuel Mitchell and I want into Lord Dadington's house the front way. SAMUEL MITCHELL. I am in the service of Lord Darlington; I am the second coachman . I was in the stable about five o'clock in the evening; I can't state how long I staid. When we had done the horses up, I left the stable about eight; I did not leave the stable before it was dark; I staid besides the stable; if any one had gone into the stable while I was there I would have seen them. Afterwards I saw the articles in the bundle; there was a pair of breeches in it which were mine; I had worn them that day; I hung them up in the room on a pin that day, when I took them off. I saw all the articles; they had been all hanging on the pins. I went into the house with Bowman; he and I went into the house together; I did not go into the house until nine o'clock; I staid near the stable until I went into the house; it was impossible for any one to go into the yard without my seeing them; nobody went into the stable before nine o'clock. Examined by the COURT. I staid quite in front of the stable door; nearer to the stable door than I am to your Lordship; I did not see a little boy come and rattle the stable door; if he had been there while I remained, I should have seen him. There is a postillion sleeps over the stable; he was left there; he sleeps over the coach-house; he was not locked in the stables. I came out with Robert Bowman . Richard Whittington , Re-examined. We all sleep over the coach-house adjoining to the stables; we are obliged to go through the house into this bed-room; the other ways are walled up. At a little after nine o'clock, Robert Bowman aNew South Walesered the boy from over the coach-house, out of the window of that room. Re-cross-examined by MR. REYNOLDS. Can a person now, or could he at the time of this burglary, have gone by any internal communication, from the place where the prisoners are supposed to have been found, into the house - A. The communication which originally existed, was walled up then, and is now. A person could not have entered the room over the stables where we found the prisoners, from the house. Q. Could the prisoners have gone from the place where they are supposed to have been found, to where your people slept over the coach-house - A. No. The reason the communication was nailed up, was because his Lordship let part of the stables. COURT. Although there is no internal communication, yet the place where the prisoners were found, is under one roof with the place where you and some other of your master's servants sleep - A. Yes; it is all the same building. Robert Bowman , Re-examined. I went to bed at nine o'clock; I heard a boy at the door after I was undressed; our bed-room looks into the mews; I was not in bed; I spoke to the boy; I did not come down to let him in; I could not, without coming through the house; I told him to leave the territs at the public-house; it was then dark, and I had a candle. WILLIAM WRIGHT. I went to the assistance of Lord Darligton's servants; I went through the stable and up stairs; I saw the prisoners there, and collared them both; I afterwards went to the watch-house. Examined by the COURT. When I went up the ladder, the lesser man, Gow, said, coachman, you have got us; we will give ourselves up to you; I am in distress. I told them I could not help that, and collared them both. I am a coachman, and he addressed the term coachman to me. Mackenzie followed me up. ELLIS WILLIAMS . I am a constable of the parish of St. James's. Lord Darlington's stables are in that parish. I produce the articles given to me by Richard Whittington. (Skeleton-keys, crow-bar, wax-taper, and phosphorous produced.) MR. REYNOLDS, for the prisoners, objected, that the part into which the prisoners had broken, was not part of the dwelling-house, because whatever communication there might have been originally, it was clear that there was none now, either with the place where the servants slept, or with the dwelling-house. MR. MARSHAM, contra contended, that it was under the protection of the dwelling-house, and in support of his argument, cited the case of the "King against Brown, in the 1st East. p. 493; in that case the premises of the prosecution consisted of a stable, cow-house, cottage, and barn, which were not enclosed, nor had any internal communication with each other; the barn was the part broken and entered, in the night time, and the prisoner was found guilty, subject to the opinion of the Twelve Judges, who after a consideration of the case, declared the conviction to be right. THE COURT, ruled with Mr. Marsham. PRIMROSE, GUILTY - DEATH , aged 22. GOW, GUILTY - DEATH , aged 19. Second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice Park.
Source: State Library of Queensland. Convict Transportation Registers Database 1787-1867 [database on-line].
Citation details: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/2, Page Number 310 Text: John Primrose, one of 175 convicts transported on the ship Morley, November 1816. Sentence details: Convicted at Middlesex Gaol Delivery for a term of life on 29 May 1816. Vessel: Morley. Date of Departure: November 1816. Place of Arrival: New South Wales. |
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Religious marriage
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June 12, 1826 (aged 32 years)
Source: Ancestry.com. Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Text: Name: John Primrose Spouse Name: Ann Roberts Marriage Date: 1826 Marriage Place: New South Wales Registration Place: Windsor, New South Wales Registration Year: 1826 Volume Number: V B
Source: Ancestry.com. 'New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1826-1851 [database on-line].
Text: Granted 28 Apr 1826, Rev. J. Cross, clergyman John Primrose, 30, Morley (1), life, bond Ann Roberts, 17, born in the colony Text: John Primrose of this parish a bachelor and Ann Roberts of this parish a spinster were married in this church by banns with consent of the Governor this 12th day of Jun 1826 John signed the register and Ann made her X mark in the register in the presence of John Linsley of this parish who signed the register and [illegible - could be Eliz. Smith] of this parish who signed the register |
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Census
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Source: Census of New South Wales November 1828, ed. by Malcolm R. Sainty and Keith A. Johnson. Sydney: Library of Australian History, 1985 ie. 1980
Citation details: p. 307 Text: Primrose, John, 33, ticket of leave, Morley, 1817, life, Protestant, painter, Windsor Primrose, Ann, 19, born in the colony Primrose, Thomas, 18m, born in the colony |
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Source: National Library of Australia. Trove: one search...a wealth of information. [database on-line].
Citation details: Sydney Morning Herald Fri 20 Jun 1856 p. 1 Text: DEATHS. On Sunday, the 15th instant, at his residence, Church and Catherine streets, Windsor, Mr. John Primrose, after a pain- ful illness, in the 62nd year of his age, highly respected by all who knew him. |
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1794–1856
Birth: about 1794
Death: June 15, 1856 — Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia |
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1809–1876
Birth: 1809
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1876 — Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia |
| Religious marriage | Religious marriage — June 12, 1826 — Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia |
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1827–1905
Birth: April 23, 1827
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: December 1, 1905 — Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia |
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1829–1884
Birth: April 3, 1829
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: February 1, 1884 |
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1831–1900
Birth: August 21, 1831
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1900 — Sydney City, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia |
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1833–1923
Birth: October 17, 1833
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: January 15, 1923 — Waverley, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia |
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1836–1899
Birth: March 5, 1836
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: June 14, 1899 — Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia |
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1836–1914
Birth: March 5, 1836
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: September 29, 1914 — Flemington, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia |
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1838–1916
Birth: October 17, 1838
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: May 4, 1916 — Enmore, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia |
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1841–1923
Birth: May 17, 1841
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: October 9, 1923 — Queensland, Australia |
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1843–1915
Birth: September 13, 1843
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: January 18, 1915 — Darlington, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia |
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1846–1908
Birth: June 30, 1846
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: November 8, 1908 — Burwood, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia |
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1851–1851
Birth: August 9, 1851
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: August 30, 1851 — Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia |
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1853–1912
Birth: November 19, 1853
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— Windsor, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia Death: January 27, 1912 — Roseville, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia |
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Text: William and John were tried as conspirators in the same offence at the Old Bailey. |
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Text: John was sentenced to death, commuted to life imprisonment for stealing household goods and transported to the colony aboard the ship 'Morley' in 1817.
Source: University of Sheffield. Humanities Research Institute. The Proceedings of the Old Bailey: London's Central Criminal Court, 1674 to 1913. [database on-line]. Sheffield: the Institute, 2003-2008
Text: Old Bailey transcript 29 May 1816: JOHN PRIMROSE and WILLIAM GOW were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of the Right Honourable William Hurry, Earl of Darlington, about nine o'clock in the night of the 17th of May , with intent to steal, and burglariously stealing therein, one table, value 5s. one waistcoat, value 4s. his property; pair of breeches, value 8s. the property of Samuel Mitchell ; and one pair of gaiters, value 3s. the property of Richard Whittington. JESSE WHITTINGTON . I live with Lord Darlington; he lives in King-street, St. James's-square. In the evening of the 17th of May last, I was in the stable at about eight o'clock, I was there before that time for two or three hours, I had been in the room over the stables at about eight o'clock in the evening; I locked the door; I remained in the neighbourhood of the stables for about half an hour. I put the key in my pocket. It was quite dark when I went away; I had not the stable door in my view all the time; I had not seen it between eight and half past eight; if any one had entered the stable door between eight and half past eight o'clock, I was not in such a situation as I must have seen them. I returned to the stables at about a quarter after nine o'clock; I saw a light in the room up over the stables; my father was with me. We found the door open. My father went in, and stood at the door; I heard my father call out Bob, two or three times; he meant the postillion; I heard an aNew South Waleser made in a strange voice. My father then came out, and locked the door; we have two keys to the stable door; I had one, and my father the other. My father told me to go for assistance; I went to the ale-house, and brought assistance; Mr. Wright and Mr. Mackenzie came with me. When I got back to the stable, my father told Wright to take care of the stable, and he would go for more persons; he did so. On his return, they opened the door, and went in; he went up stairs, Mr. Wright, Mr. Mackenzie, and my father went up. Two or three days afterwards, I found a crow and two skeleton-keys in the litter of the horses in one of the stals; we clean out the litter once a week; we put fresh straw over the old, and so go on for about a week. It was light when I locked the door. RICHARD WHITTINGTON . I am the father of the last witness; I am coachman to the Earl of Darlington. I remember the evening of the 17th of May, I was ordered to bring the carriage at a quarter after ten. My master's christian names are William Harry. I was in the stables on the afternoon of the 17th of May, and left them between seven and eight o'clock; I was not farther than the public-house from the stable all the evening; the public-house is about a hundred yards from the stable. I returned to the stable at about a quarter past nine; there was a light in the room over the stable then; the stable door was then shut, but unlocked; I went in under the ladder, and called out Bob, several times, and then I heard a strange voice; then I went outside, and locked the door, and put my shoulder against it, and sent my son to the ale-house for assistance. When they came, we went up stairs; Wright went first with a pitchfork, I followed next, and Mackenzie came next with a lanthorn; we found the two prisoners in the hay-loft, at the top of the ladder, with a bundle tied up behind them. Wright and Mackinzie seized them first, and I said is there any more of you; they said no. I said, I won't believe you; then I looked all round, and there was no more. After we got them down stairs, we took them to the watchhouse, and had them searched; we lodged the bundle in the watchhouse also. I know the handkerchief in which the bundle was tied up; it belonged to a brother of mine; a tablecloth was in the bundle, that was his Lordship's; also a pair of breeches, they belonged to Samuel Mitchell , he is a postillion; also a stable livery waistcoat, the property of his Lordship; and a pair of gaiters, which were my own property. This stable adjoins Lord Darlington's house; it is all in one building. Cross-examined by MR. REYNOLDS. Lord Darlington's servants sleeps there; there is a strong party wall between the stable and the dwelling-house, and a person can go from the stable to the dwelling-house by a passage underneath, a covered passage. SAMUEL ROPER . I live with Mr. Palmer, 199, Oxford-street, he is a coach-harness plater. I remember the evening of the 17th of May; I was sent by my master to Lord Darlington's stables, to take two territs; it was about nine o'clock when I got there, it was pitch dark; not knowing the stable, I hallooed out at the end of the mews, and was aNew South Walesered by a woman; I asked which was Lord Darlington's stables, and she told me they were the last on the left hand. In consequence of her information, I found out the stable; I tried the stable door to go up stairs, and found it fastened; I stopped there about four or five minutes; at last I could not make any one hear, and I hallooed out very loud boy, and a postillion aNew South Walesered me from the window, and I perceived by the light of a lamp opposite, that he was in his shirt sleeves, and he said, he was getting into bed, and could not come down, but told me where the coachman was. He sent me to the coachman at the public-house; instead of going to the Golden Lion, I went to the Red Lion, and left the territs there for the coachman. Cross-examined by MR. ADOLPHUS. It was quite pitch dark. I never returned to the stable after having gone to the public-house; all was quiet when I was at the stable; it had gone nine I rather think when I got there; it was four or five minutes after, and I returned straight home from the public-house, it was not a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes after nine. Who had been at the stable between seven and eight o'clock, I don't know. All I know is that the door was locked at the time I was there; there was no lock outside; I know that, because I felt; I could not see. I felt the door, and felt a little staple, and put my finger through it, and shook the door, and found it was locked inside. The postillion was on the inside of the room. Examined by the COURT. I found this staple by feeling; for I could not see. I left the two territs for the coachman at the public house; there was two coachmen, only I took the territs to the wrong public-house. ROBERT BOWMAN. I remember the afternoon of the 17th of May; I was at the stables that afternoon, from five until eight o'clock; I was with Jesse Whittington there; I had been occasionally up stairs in the course of that afternoon; I am the postillion, called Bob. I left the stable at eight o'clock; I stood thereabouts for half an hour afterwards; I mean I was in sight of the stable door, when I say thereabouts. If any one had entered the stable door while I was there, I must have seen them; it was quite dark when we went away; it was only half past eight; it was light enough to see a person's face eight or nine yards off. COURT. Would you not have known Jesse Whittington 's face at ten yards distance - A. Yes. I did not return any more to the stable that night, until after the prisoners were taken. I was in the stable the next morning, and found six skeleton keys, on the cupboard up stairs, I gave them to the coachman; I found a tin phosphorous box, another day, on Tuesday I found it, containing matches and a bottle; I found that also in the horse litter, and took it to the coachman. Cross-examined by MR. REYNOLDS. I was not examined before the magistrate. Examined by the COURT. My Lord has two postillions; there was another postillion at the stable that night besides me; I did not leave him in the stable when I went away. Samuel Mitchell and I want into Lord Dadington's house the front way. SAMUEL MITCHELL. I am in the service of Lord Darlington; I am the second coachman . I was in the stable about five o'clock in the evening; I can't state how long I staid. When we had done the horses up, I left the stable about eight; I did not leave the stable before it was dark; I staid besides the stable; if any one had gone into the stable while I was there I would have seen them. Afterwards I saw the articles in the bundle; there was a pair of breeches in it which were mine; I had worn them that day; I hung them up in the room on a pin that day, when I took them off. I saw all the articles; they had been all hanging on the pins. I went into the house with Bowman; he and I went into the house together; I did not go into the house until nine o'clock; I staid near the stable until I went into the house; it was impossible for any one to go into the yard without my seeing them; nobody went into the stable before nine o'clock. Examined by the COURT. I staid quite in front of the stable door; nearer to the stable door than I am to your Lordship; I did not see a little boy come and rattle the stable door; if he had been there while I remained, I should have seen him. There is a postillion sleeps over the stable; he was left there; he sleeps over the coach-house; he was not locked in the stables. I came out with Robert Bowman . Richard Whittington , Re-examined. We all sleep over the coach-house adjoining to the stables; we are obliged to go through the house into this bed-room; the other ways are walled up. At a little after nine o'clock, Robert Bowman aNew South Walesered the boy from over the coach-house, out of the window of that room. Re-cross-examined by MR. REYNOLDS. Can a person now, or could he at the time of this burglary, have gone by any internal communication, from the place where the prisoners are supposed to have been found, into the house - A. The communication which originally existed, was walled up then, and is now. A person could not have entered the room over the stables where we found the prisoners, from the house. Q. Could the prisoners have gone from the place where they are supposed to have been found, to where your people slept over the coach-house - A. No. The reason the communication was nailed up, was because his Lordship let part of the stables. COURT. Although there is no internal communication, yet the place where the prisoners were found, is under one roof with the place where you and some other of your master's servants sleep - A. Yes; it is all the same building. Robert Bowman , Re-examined. I went to bed at nine o'clock; I heard a boy at the door after I was undressed; our bed-room looks into the mews; I was not in bed; I spoke to the boy; I did not come down to let him in; I could not, without coming through the house; I told him to leave the territs at the public-house; it was then dark, and I had a candle. WILLIAM WRIGHT. I went to the assistance of Lord Darligton's servants; I went through the stable and up stairs; I saw the prisoners there, and collared them both; I afterwards went to the watch-house. Examined by the COURT. When I went up the ladder, the lesser man, Gow, said, coachman, you have got us; we will give ourselves up to you; I am in distress. I told them I could not help that, and collared them both. I am a coachman, and he addressed the term coachman to me. Mackenzie followed me up. ELLIS WILLIAMS . I am a constable of the parish of St. James's. Lord Darlington's stables are in that parish. I produce the articles given to me by Richard Whittington. (Skeleton-keys, crow-bar, wax-taper, and phosphorous produced.) MR. REYNOLDS, for the prisoners, objected, that the part into which the prisoners had broken, was not part of the dwelling-house, because whatever communication there might have been originally, it was clear that there was none now, either with the place where the servants slept, or with the dwelling-house. MR. MARSHAM, contra contended, that it was under the protection of the dwelling-house, and in support of his argument, cited the case of the "King against Brown, in the 1st East. p. 493; in that case the premises of the prosecution consisted of a stable, cow-house, cottage, and barn, which were not enclosed, nor had any internal communication with each other; the barn was the part broken and entered, in the night time, and the prisoner was found guilty, subject to the opinion of the Twelve Judges, who after a consideration of the case, declared the conviction to be right. THE COURT, ruled with Mr. Marsham. PRIMROSE, GUILTY - DEATH , aged 22. GOW, GUILTY - DEATH , aged 19. Second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice Park.
Source: State Library of Queensland. Convict Transportation Registers Database 1787-1867 [database on-line].
Citation details: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/2, Page Number 310 Text: John Primrose, one of 175 convicts transported on the ship Morley, November 1816. Sentence details: Convicted at Middlesex Gaol Delivery for a term of life on 29 May 1816. Vessel: Morley. Date of Departure: November 1816. Place of Arrival: New South Wales. |
| Religious marriage |
Source: Ancestry.com. Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Text: Name: John Primrose Spouse Name: Ann Roberts Marriage Date: 1826 Marriage Place: New South Wales Registration Place: Windsor, New South Wales Registration Year: 1826 Volume Number: V B
Source: Ancestry.com. 'New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1826-1851 [database on-line].
Text: Granted 28 Apr 1826, Rev. J. Cross, clergyman John Primrose, 30, Morley (1), life, bond Ann Roberts, 17, born in the colony Text: John Primrose of this parish a bachelor and Ann Roberts of this parish a spinster were married in this church by banns with consent of the Governor this 12th day of Jun 1826 John signed the register and Ann made her X mark in the register in the presence of John Linsley of this parish who signed the register and [illegible - could be Eliz. Smith] of this parish who signed the register |
| Census |
Source: Census of New South Wales November 1828, ed. by Malcolm R. Sainty and Keith A. Johnson. Sydney: Library of Australian History, 1985 ie. 1980
Citation details: p. 307 Text: Primrose, John, 33, ticket of leave, Morley, 1817, life, Protestant, painter, Windsor Primrose, Ann, 19, born in the colony Primrose, Thomas, 18m, born in the colony |
| Death |
Source: National Library of Australia. Trove: one search...a wealth of information. [database on-line].
Citation details: Sydney Morning Herald Fri 20 Jun 1856 p. 1 Text: DEATHS. On Sunday, the 15th instant, at his residence, Church and Catherine streets, Windsor, Mr. John Primrose, after a pain- ful illness, in the 62nd year of his age, highly respected by all who knew him. |
| Burial |
Source: Smee, C.J. and Provis, J. Selkirk, comp., The 1788-1820 Association's Pioneer Register, second edition - volume I. Sydney, N.S.W., The Association, 1981
Text: Buried at St Matthews |